Hello, meanwhile the place is moreorless decided; we want to do it in the Sierra de Carzola, around 200 km northeast of Granada, 1.400 m high up in the mountains. The coordinates you'll find in the invitation, which is in work now. To get it, please subscribe the mailinglist or write me (see menu left). The place of Renate and Patrick is too small, I think, the gathering could get 200 brothers and sisters... But it might be a good idea to make there a smaller gathering now or whenever!